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Post by ewan on Aug 28, 2009 14:12:11 GMT
I have a 206lxd and the rear axle has recently broken. I have been told this is a common fault on this vehicle and the citroen saxo.
Is this true?
I have spoken to peugeot U.K. and asked but on each occassion , when I ask .........I only ever get silence as a reply......never do they confirm or deny.
If it is a common fault, then I will go to the small claims court and have it repaired by peugeot as I should expect this vehicle to last more than 10years and achieve over 100,000 miles before major repairs such as this are necessary. I suggest anyone having this problem should do the same and take them to court. (Small claims cost around £45) Not as expensive as you thought.
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Post by frank on Aug 28, 2009 21:20:38 GMT
lol youll not get anywhere on this im affriad, the vehicle has a 3 year warranty after that your on your own, simple as that
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Post by Donaldiesel on Sept 1, 2009 14:37:53 GMT
Yes, save your £45. It would not be reasonable to expect a manufacturer to repair faults on a 10 year old vehicle under the original warranty, even if similar vehicles usually last longer than this. You have had a lot of use out of the vehicle. If Peugeot are closing ranks and you believe the broken axle to be a common fault, then ask an independant garage. Repairs may not be as expensive as you think.
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Post by bluehaddock on Sept 2, 2009 21:45:05 GMT
Yes it is a common faliure on the 206 and as others have said you have very little chance of getting Peugeot to do it under warranty.
Save the £45 and put it towards either repairing your axle or buying a 2nd hand replacement.
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Post by Piston Broke on Sept 3, 2009 9:55:26 GMT
I think you're stuffed old chum. Big miles, old age, and lord knows who's owned it before, how it was driven and how dilligently it was maintained. A lot of cars exhibit 'common' faults as they age and wear, but that's not necessarily indicative of faulty manufacturing or design, especially as plently of 206s live to interstellar age without the problem occuring.
I've seen a few 206s that have been involved in acidents where the whole rear beam assembly has sheared clean off as a result of the impact. Nice.
There's a guy who advertises in the club magazine who does some very reasonable prices on entire rear suspension assemblies which have been fully rebuilt and refurbished, I think in the region of £350 + delivery which is a cracking price. Could be just what the Doctor ordered for your problem. I wouldn't muck about with a second hand unit only to risk that one going the same way.
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Post by ewan on Sept 3, 2009 11:28:53 GMT
Thanks for the advice. Consumer law does not take into account the warranty, only what a reasonable life expectancy is. 67,000 miles is not high mileage( certainly not for Honda, Ford, Toyota and numerous other manufacturers). Will try my luck in court as all info I recieve points to this as a regular occurence. £45 seems very little in comparison to £300+.
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Post by frank on Sept 3, 2009 21:16:33 GMT
if you think them cars are without common problems as they age m8 your wrong. if you owned a ford of that age itll be rotten. honda and toyota will cost you a fortune in repiar costs
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Post by Piston Broke on Sept 3, 2009 21:39:51 GMT
I've had cars on the ramp with 150k that looked and drove like new, and cars with 10k that were on their last gasp - mileage is often not as critical a factor as they way the car is driven, the purpose to which it is put, and the standard of maintenance. Indeed, lower than average mileage can itself cause it's own problems.
Unless you've owned the car from new, have been the only driver, and have an impeccable service record at an approved dealer or a qualified independant (with genuine parts used for everything, every time without fail), then you're stuffed - getting PSA to pay for work on cars that are still under warranty is often hard enough. Never say never, but I think your time would be better spent just fixing it. If you're worried about geting bits fixed for free, then stick to new cars and trade them when the warranty ends.
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Post by Donaldiesel on Sept 4, 2009 12:52:03 GMT
Well good luck. Do bear in mind that you don't go to court to prove who is right & who is wrong. Justice and ethics don't come into the equation. You go to court to prove who has the most expensive lawyer. I am not taking sides here, and I don't like the legal system either. However, if you are serious about this you need to be prepared to throw £20K + at it. Its up to you of course - in my opinion repairing the existing would appear to be better value for money. I agree that 67K is not a particularly high mileage for a major suspension fault, but it still represents a lot of use and as others have said there are so many variables. 10 years old is more the issue due to corrosion. What part has actually broken? Taking the devils advocate: How many 206's are there in use? How many have broken axles? PSA cannot allow you to set a legal precident that could potentially cost them millions. The very best lawyers are peanuts to them. If you want to get a manufacturer to take notice of you, your best weapon is press publicity, but do check your facts to avoid libel.
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Post by ewan on Sept 4, 2009 20:49:11 GMT
The car has been serviced by the same(Peugeot trained) mechanic since 2004, although he is independant now. Previous owners were a pensioner and then his daughter, the mechanic who maintained it for them and myself. None of whom are boy racers ,the mechanic never used it, he bought it from the daughter as he knew it was well maintained. Of course you expect numerous problems to manifest through time, but I have owned 2 405 diesels and used them for 3 years taxiing( aver. 48k pa) apart from regular servicing and oil change no problems at all and that was driven in a somewhat erratic and aggressive fashion. Almost 300k between them. Thats what I expect from a car, not have it fall apart just after its run in. It transpires that its a design fault, little or no airflow prevents water from being dried off and causes premature rusting. So the drier the country you live in the longer it will last. I LIVE IN SCOTLAND not known for its sunshine.
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Post by oldpug on Sept 5, 2009 17:13:16 GMT
Go to Mountjoy Engineering Devon.01404881325.a complete recon axle ready to fit £373.75 inc VAT and delivery. 2-3 hrs to swop brakes and fit,job done.Save your money,enjoy life its only an old car.Nothing on a 206 lasts very long,not like the old Peugeots.
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