My new 305

[farmerpug]

I bough myself this 1985 305 1.6 S5 estate yesterday:

It made the 250 mile trip from manchester to holyhead, then the ferry to dublin and back up to dungannon where i live, no breakdowns or overheating issues, the weber carb is a bit out of adjustment making it a bit jerky at junctions, and the camshaft is showing signs of wear its just not as smooth as it should be, but here it is:





I am considering putting an XUD into it, i know how bulletproof them engines are as long as the coolant is taken care of, and they are also economical and fairly refined for a diesel.
There are a few bits of non structural rust and the best plan of attack on them i think is to remove one panel at a time and concentrate on it, but it definatley needs a replacement front and rear valence and i hope someone on here might be able to point me in the right direction for 305 parts.

[sochaux1983]

Glad to see it's back on the road. 

I used to own your car - I was forced to sell it because I'd been out of work for six months and didn't have enough money coming in. I fitted it with 106 Rallye wheels but I assume Karl at 909-Cars sold those on before the car got to you. The pressed steel plates were fitted when I owned it. 

I bought it in 2010 in my first year of University from a bloke in Norwich, off eBay. It overheated five miles from where I picked it up. The bloke went very quiet indeed when I told him I wanted to drive it back to Manchester (which is where I was living at the time). I used it until the MoT ran out and the carburettor started giving problems. My original deranged plan was to fit an early alloy-block Mi16 to it. 

Watched your video and regretted ever parting with it - I bought a rough 305 GL van last week to atone for my sins. 

Here's some shots of it back in the day - the rest are on my computer back in Cambs. The Solex autochoke carburettor was hopeless. Got halfway through trying to convert it to a manual choke (the blue Austin-Rover offcut cable was from a NOS kit I bought from Retro Rides) and ran out of money. Managed to locate a 32/36 Weber but couldn't find a suitable manifold \ adaptor plate for love nor money. All I was able to do in the end was to dry store it - I knew the tailgate leaked and didn't want any more water getting on the floor pan. 

Enjoy the Mario Lanza tape! I'll find and resize some better shots of it once I get home. There's a couple knocking around on Retro Rides. 

 

[205GRD]

Nice to see your 305 popping up, and that it made the journey home. In terms of parts sources: You can try Ian who runs our parts finder service on [e-mail] as well as the usual leboncoin and french ebay, along with Dean Hunter (peugeotparts.co.uk)

[sochaux1983]

ew more pictures from when I owned it.



Header tank overflowed not far from where I bought it.



The next day it was the poster child for the Autonutse forum at Cholmondeley Castle Festival of 1000 Classics.



From the cabin of my C4.





I added some 106 Rallye wheels and fiddled with HDR for a bit.



In the background of a shoot I did with a friend's 306.

[farmerpug]

Its great to hear from you, the car is in good condition for a 305, most here were just used as workhorses and run into the ground. At the time it appeared on ebay i paid carl to fix up any of the MOT failure points and get it road legal again so it could be drove home, the original radiator had become silted up due to its age and carl had put in a saxo radiator the day before, and fitted the webber. At first i was a bit nervous taking a 29 year old car on such a long journey but it made it. He thought there was a camshaft problem causing the top end clatter it was apparently common on these XU engines, and a 205 1.6 camshaft would fit, the car still drives ok but doesn't like revving past 4000 rpm.

So far i havent done any work to the car itself, i bought a rusty diesel van and have spent quite a bit on replacing all the worn out parts on the engine, suspension and steering before putting it into the estate, just a few coolant hoses to sort out, and see what condition the body is in underneath, although i will be stripping it down completely to sort out the bodywork, i was working on the engine and then spotted another 305 for sale in the isle of wight, and went last week to pick it up.
It is a 1986 1.6 Automatic Estate, one owner from new, with a full service history up till its last service a few months ago, it drove back 600 miles without a problem:
Here it was in east cowes waiting for the ferry:

and back home:


My uncle stopped using the mushroom house recently so there is now a good dry space available where i can take the cars apart safely, my cousin joe also bought himself a 1988 van from the same place the rusty van with the diesel engine came from, he works a lot quicker than i do and hence has the whole thing stripped back to the shell ready for sandblasting:

[farmerpug]

I started into the car this week, first of all removing the engine, then slowly stripping the front end bar the wings which are a bit tricky to remove on a 305 thanks to whatever sort of adhesive peugeot used back in the day, then i set about stripping the doors but so far only got the front passenger door done, the checkstrap has a pin which needs to be hammered out and i don't have a punch the correct size.
Here is the car so far:

With the wiper mechanism out of the way its possible to look at the bulkhead, 305s seem to go rusty here, there is rust on this one although it shouldn't be too hard to fix:


There is bits of rust in the front corners the front valence is the most noticeable, but both wings have also got a bit, having said that its not too bad, its mostly in areas which will not be seen so the repair does not need to be perfect:

[farmerpug]

Ive continued stripping the 305, almost everything is off with the exception of the back axle and fuel tank:
The floors are not too bad, the odd isolated rust spot here and there but nothing too bad, the worst bit of damage was this big dent near the bulkhead:

The back doors both have rust along their bottom edges:

The bootlid is stripped down:

The cause of the leak:


I was surprised that the alfa romeo sunroof that was fitted didnt cause any rust issues, it came out easily enough and appears to have been installed quite well:


The gaskets round the roof bars


The windscreen frame is in good condition:

[305derv]

Hello farmer pug! I recognise your username from my eBay account, I'm the one breaking the 305s on eBay.

Nice to see someone else loving the 305 estate!

[305derv]

And if you're thinking about fitting an XUD, I have a 1.9 td in mine at the moment, which I'm changing for a 2.0 hdi over Xmas, which means my custom "master cylinder" avoiding manifold is going to be available, as well as the rest of the engine!

[305derv]

My project thread is on www.peugeot305.jimdo.com

[farmerpug]

How are you doing 305derv, its good to see you over on the forum, and its great your keeping your 305 going.

At the moment I'm still wanting to get the car either sandblasted, or acid dipped to properly sort out the body before i respray it red, a colour like yours would be what i am after.

I have an XUD engine already removed from a 1988 Van i have already fitted a new timing belt, aux belt, and sourced most of the coolant pipes required for it, there was 180k miles on the van it came from, and the van hadn't been used in 5 years, having said that it did start up and drive around the yard and into the shed before the engine was removed.

I seen the HDi 305 on youtube which does look like a great thing to do, the only thing putting me off putting a turbo XUD or HDi into it is getting the car insured

BTW if you or any other 305 owner needs to look at the parts diagrams for it i have put the old microfiche slides into files and folders, they are handy for cross referencing against part numbers from newer pugs.
drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5UstL2jIkcjbWx3ZWNyWndGdjA&usp=sharing

As for the 305 you are breaking, does the back doors on the estate have good stainless steel trims?

[farmerpug]

Ive been doing small bits at a time with the 305, with the back axle and subframe out i got them sandblasted and sent off to an engineering company to have them annodised:
These are the parts in the boot of the Automatic 305:

the parts back and annodised:

The work is okay, inside the subframe doesnt seem to have been covered very well at all, i was thinking of just lacquering over the parts but now i think getting them painted in red oxide then powder coated would be the best thing for a long lasting finish, i was suprised at how well the original rear spings came up, they were advisories in the last mot for corrosion i was prepared to buy a new pair but these seem fine now:


The main bit of work is sorting out the rust, and in most places its caused by the underseal cracking and trapping water the doors were the first thing i tackled, that black two tone paint job along the bottom of the doors was the first thing to go, i dont plan to do this 2 tone job when respraying the car



here is the rust holes in the bottom of the rear doors:

the rear wheel arch brushed back a bit to reveal how much rust there is, its not too bad:


The main work has begun, stripping the underseal, its a slow hateful job, the only technique i found that works is heating it up and scraping it with a screwdriver, it stinks, makes plenty of smoke and covers the full underside of the car so a few weeks left, here is the effects of 2 hours:





A rotissarie is definatley on the to do list, these wheelarches are doable with the car on the ground but it will need spun around to get the underside done.