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Post by clapham on Jan 6, 2007 21:23:08 GMT
hi i wonder if any one can help me, iam considering buying a 5 door 306 diesel either turbo or non turbo what faults iam i to look for. it will be a high mileage car beacuse i dont have a lot to spend. ta
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Post by Donaldiesel on Jan 8, 2007 14:22:08 GMT
Take along someone who is familiar with this model and buy them lunch.
High mileage is not a problem provided car has been properly serviced. Check for evidence of regular servicing. Oil & oil filter changes at 5-6000 miles, cam belt changes at 50000 miles, fuel & filter changes approx 15000 miles.
XUD engine is easily damaged by overheating. Best walk away if there is evidence of this. Check condition of cooling system. Just water with no antifreeze is a warning sign. Antifreeze should be in all year round to stop corrosion. Just water suggests recent topping up or sloppy attitude to servicing. Coolant surging in the expansion bottle when engine revved, or unusually high coolant pressure could be head problems so avoid.
Listen for any unusual noises from the turbo.
Try to drive in circles on full lock if you have space and listen for clicking from worn c/v joints.
Find out what some of the more common repairs cost so you can negotiate if necessary.
Good luck
Donaldiesel
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Post by frank on Jan 8, 2007 20:59:41 GMT
cambelts is 72,000 not 50
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Post by Donaldiesel on Jan 8, 2007 22:26:52 GMT
This is fundamentally the same XUD engine as used in 05 series cars. Recommended cam belt replacement at 50000miles. What has changed for the belt to last so much longer on a 306?
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Snid
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Post by Snid on Jan 27, 2007 19:11:02 GMT
Hi,
If you find a car with faulty central locking or windows (as a lot of them seem to have) it might not be as serious as it seems...I had a 306 D-Turbo with spaceship mileage and the electrics in the doors played up a lot. I traced it to corrosion in the terminals of the multi-pin connector between the door and A-post. Easily sorted with a wire brush and switch cleaner/WD40 (disconnect the batttery first!), but it might push the price down.
Good luck with your search! Snid.
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Post by frank on Jan 27, 2007 21:01:13 GMT
if you check at your local dealer and speak to there workshop controler or master tech as i am they will tell you the cam belt is changed at 72k not 50k, if you know more about these cars donald diesel thn come along and help us out!!!
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Post by Donaldiesel on Jan 28, 2007 12:28:30 GMT
Hi Frank,
Agreed, Peugeot recommend 72K on 306 diesel. However, in the days of Talbot horizon/Pug 205/305 &309 recommended cambelt change was 50K. I asked what has changed on the XUD engine for this to be the case, but you have not answered my question.
The same engine is also used by Rover/Citroen/LDV. I would be interested to know what they recommend.
As you know, the consequences of a broken belt are serious for the vehicle owner. Personally, I would not take a chance on this happening and would prefer to change at 50K. Please advise us how the engines/belts have been improved so we can all make an informed choice in this matter.
Regards,
Donaldiesel
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Post by frank on Jan 28, 2007 14:17:31 GMT
you are right in that the belts on an older xud is changed at 50k but as he is asking about a 306 that is irelivant, as they are changed at 72k or 5 years which ever sooner and i would be supprised if using a genuine belt you would have one go at 50k. the belts are different in the way that they are constructed, the new dv6ted engine in the 307 and 407 have a life of 240000km!!!! as these are a teflon coated belt, the dv4td in a 206 has a life of 140000miles and 8 years, and peugeot garanty this as well so if it did snap before that millage it would pay for repairs.
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Post by frank on Jan 28, 2007 14:18:42 GMT
also its oil and filter at 6000 miles and air and fuel at 18000 miles
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Post by Donaldiesel on Jan 31, 2007 22:59:02 GMT
Thanks Frank, that is most interesting. So if I now buy from Peugeot a belt for an '86 XUD will I be supplied one of these new construction belts that I can safely use for 72K? What do Peugeot now recommend for the older models?
I recently noticed that a local motor factor sells XUD belts for under a tenner. I wonder how many miles they can be expected to last?
Please bear in mind that Clapham buying a high mileage 306 is unlikely to know if a genuine Peugeot belt was fitted at the last change. If presented with service history in the form of a bill from XYZ garage for replacing belt at xxxK miles, how many more miles would you give it?Whenever I have been involved with an XUD of unknown history I have replaced the belt as a matter of course.
Regards,
Donaldiesel
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Post by frank on Feb 1, 2007 8:00:05 GMT
oh i agree with that if i buy a used car i always replace the belt as a matter of course, id rather spend 20quid on a belt then more on a motor.
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Post by 205tastic on Feb 5, 2007 18:46:42 GMT
hi, i've had a relatively high milage 306d (1.9 non-turbo) for 6 months it's been very reliable but here are the bits i've noticed: as above, the cambelt wanted changing... the interior heater is permentantly blowing through hot/cold air - i think you'd need a higher spec. model with air con to fix that (great if it's cold, less so when it's hot...) - if anyone knows what that problem is, please let me know  and a couple of dash lights have gone... other than that it's been very reliable! - have managed some Huddersfield - london commutes in it... , i'd recomend servicing as you buy it... and bear in mind the advice above (the non-turbo to me is a little slow on the old uptake, but it depends where/how you want to drive!) |
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