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Post by chompy on May 16, 2007 0:36:24 GMT
Just got a INDEPTH price list from Hi-flow heads and they look like they know there stuff about mi16 conversions. Nice 1 chompy!. Got any advice on brakes and suspension mate, or anything else to do with the conversion? told ya  all else i can think of is go light, lose every single last thing you dont need, even sound deadening. suspension is up to your own personal preferance, brakes will deffinetly need bulked up, if youve got the cash, go 4pots, if not then i think the GTI-6 setup might fit on a 205, not really sure about that though |
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2007 19:19:30 GMT
what he said. Loosing weight is the cheapest performance mod you van get. 205's are not exactly lardy to start with but all that unecessary trim and sound deadning will add up to something. Remember though if you're making a track car any weight that you bin will probably be added back by the roll cage.
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Post by 205conversionator on May 23, 2007 19:31:17 GMT
Injection or Carbs??? Can you keep the 8v loom with injection or is it not a good idea  |
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Post by Admin on May 26, 2007 16:07:28 GMT
Injection or Carbs??? Can you keep the 8v loom with injection or is it not a good idea neither. Throttle bodies for the win! |
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Post by 205conversionator on May 27, 2007 14:26:16 GMT
Why is throttle bodies better?
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2007 12:05:01 GMT
carbs are great. Thye make a huge noise and are good at delivering power but are a faff to set up and maintain in top condition so basically spend most of their lives not delivering maximum output.
Fuel Injection is good for reliability and getting good power from a standard engine
throttle bodies combine the best of both worlds and allow you to tailor the fuel/air mix exactly to your application and deliver reliable power.
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Post by Piston Broke on May 29, 2007 15:54:09 GMT
Best place for an Mi16 engine (be it XU9J4 or XU10J4) is in the 405 - better handling, beter balanced, better brked, better looking (IMHO), rarer and several orders of magnitude more practical than the 205.
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Post by 205conversionator on May 29, 2007 18:53:50 GMT
Best place for an Mi16 engine (be it XU9J4 or XU10J4) is in the 405 - better handling, beter balanced, better brked, better looking (IMHO), rarer and several orders of magnitude more practical than the 205. I see what you are saying, but the engine is the only thing worth keeping on this 405. Its been half stripped inside and every panel has been kicked in! Not pretty. I would of thought that the 205 would be better handling??. |
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Post by 205conversionator on May 29, 2007 18:59:36 GMT
carbs are great. Thye make a huge noise and are good at delivering power but are a faff to set up and maintain in top condition so basically spend most of their lives not delivering maximum output. Fuel Injection is good for reliability and getting good power from a standard engine throttle bodies combine the best of both worlds and allow you to tailor the fuel/air mix exactly to your application and deliver reliable power. So if i was to have carbs i would need to have them reset quite often, but do throttle bodies just get setup and thats it? Do they stay at maxium output? |
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Post by Piston Broke on May 29, 2007 20:18:33 GMT
Fair do's, if the donor car was already beyond redemption. No way is a 205 better handling thatn an Mi, i'm afraid. 405 steers better, has absolutely astonishing levels of grip, gives wonderful feedback and doesn't suffer from that godawful lift off oversteer. Shame it rides like a supermarket trolley over a cobbled streer!
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Post by 205conversionator on May 30, 2007 21:30:23 GMT
Ive drove the Mi16 once and it was dangerous! The brakes don't work and there's a massive hole in the exhaust, plus the steerings shot. But the engine seems to rev for ever and im keen to rebuild it and put it into something, and seeing as ive got the 205 with a knackerd engine i thought why not. I love the Mi16 405 but my 1 is well past it!
Whats your view on carbs, Injection or throttle bodies turbolag you sound like you know your stuff
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Post by Piston Broke on May 30, 2007 21:43:43 GMT
I dunno 'bout that. depends what you're after, how much work you can do yourself, and what you wanna spend.
I'm tempted to go carbs on my mi, but i've got a set of Weber 45s from my old westfield, so the biggest expense (the actual carbies themselves) are already covered, otherwise I think i'd be up for a bit of light hearted throttle body fun.
TBH though, it's a lot of fannying around on top of getting the engine into your 205 - i'd get it in and running properly, then slap in some nitrous, cos i'm a bit nitrously inclined.
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Post by 205conversionator on Jun 21, 2007 16:28:32 GMT
Finally the conversion is underway! Hiflowheads are doing it and they are going to put bike carbs on it. They say the bike carbs should be just as good as twin 45's, does any 1 have any other views or advice? And would they definetly need setting up on rolling road?
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Post by chompy on Jun 22, 2007 15:27:50 GMT
i'l get to see it then, never away from there lol they have an engine dyno ect so it will get set-up when its getting converted unless theyve specificaly told you you'l need them set up  |
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Post by Admin on Jun 22, 2007 21:26:24 GMT
Well I've got twin 40's on the Zs and I'd certainly consider bike carbs to be an upgrade. NOt sure they'd make the same marvelous noise but they will probably be more reliable at delivering top end power. Maybe not as tunable if you're after extra low end grunt.
If cash was king I'd still go for a full mappable solution on throttles though!
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all else i can think of is go light, lose every single last thing you dont need, even sound deadening. suspension is up to your own personal preferance, brakes will deffinetly need bulked up, if youve got the cash, go 4pots, if not then i think the GTI-6 setup might fit on a 205, not really sure about that though
